may 23, 2017 –

People Still Fall in Love on the Internet

REMEMBERING SKINONSKINONSKIN

By Auriea Harvey & Michaël Samyn

This essay accompanies the presentation of Entropy8Zuper!’s skinonskinonskin (1999) as part of the online exhibition Net Art Anthology.

On [15/05/2017, 12:56:12] as we sat in the same room together in our studio in Gent, we met on Skype to chat about our very first project together, skinonskinonskin. This website was a bundle of HTML coded love letters Michaël and I sent to one another in the days and weeks after we first met online. Tasked with writing an essay for Rhizome about this work, we found it difficult to be rational about something we had never been. In 1999 when we first decided to show the work publicly we did so as a pay-per-view, perhaps one of the first examples of net art released in such a way. We did so to protect its content and insure that anyone who wanted to access our private world, ''really'' wanted to do so. This was no casual sex, it is a document of two people deciding to make what was either the best or worst decision of their entire lives. It revealed our darkest natures and our most beautiful selves.


15/05/2017, 12:56:12

michaël

Are you here?

15/05/2017, 12:56:20

auriea

yes

15/05/2017, 12:56:32

michaël

Why?

15/05/2017, 12:56:49

auriea

i am always here

15/05/2017, 12:57:14

auriea

index.html

15/05/2017, 12:57:17

michaël

(F) They didn't have emojis in 1999, did they?

15/05/2017, 12:57:37

auriea

no. and i wonder what we would have made of them.

15/05/2017, 12:58:23

michaël

We probably wouldn't have felt nearly as comfortable talking through a corporate network as we are doing now.

15/05/2017, 12:59:09

michaël

The internet used to feel so intimate.

15/05/2017, 13:00:03

auriea

i am looking at the code of skinonskinonskin

15/05/2017, 13:00:34

auriea

it was significant to us that people look at it. that they read the codes behind the pages

15/05/2017, 13:00:36

michaël

I guess Skinonskinonskin could still be made now.

15/05/2017, 13:01:06

auriea

but i don't think it would be. we seemed to make it out of necessity. considering we didn't know each other at all at the start of it.

15/05/2017, 13:01:26

michaël

We needed a way to communicate other than text chat back then too.

15/05/2017, 13:01:31

michaël

For different reasons.

15/05/2017, 13:02:04

michaël

I don't think data harvesters can make any sense of Skinonskinonskin.

15/05/2017, 13:02:16

auriea

i'd like to see them try.

15/05/2017, 13:02:22

michaël

We should teach the terrorists to use art for communication.

15/05/2017, 13:02:54

michaël

(assuming that this is why we are being watched)

15/05/2017, 13:03:20

michaël

Hm. Privacy is kind of important in a love affair, isn't it?

15/05/2017, 13:03:28

auriea

always watching… for the wrong reasons

15/05/2017, 13:03:56

auriea

i remember we hid these pages away while we made them

15/05/2017, 13:04:37

auriea

i remember first of all that we had a private chat room and the next day a private folder on hell.com

15/05/2017, 13:05:23

auriea

but the secret folder was discovered. i wasn't sure how to feel once others knew what we were making.

15/05/2017, 13:05:35

michaël

I wonder how people fall in love on the internet nowadays.

15/05/2017, 13:06:36

auriea

do they? they must! but this was different even then. the morning after the first time we met in chat you sent me the first page of skinonskinonskin.

15/05/2017, 13:06:44

auriea

i fell in love immediately.

15/05/2017, 13:06:58

auriea

immediately

15/05/2017, 13:07:10

auriea

maintenant

15/05/2017, 13:07:28

michaël

We presented ourselves differently back then.

15/05/2017, 13:07:49

michaël

To some extent we fell in love with each other's creation of a persona.

15/05/2017, 13:08:02

michaël

In a way that is more than with a person.

15/05/2017, 13:08:16

michaël

It's a combination of being and doing.

15/05/2017, 13:08:24

michaël

Not just being.

15/05/2017, 13:08:43

michaël

So our love involved work right from the start.

15/05/2017, 13:10:00

auriea

it was not something we even needed to think about.

15/05/2017, 13:10:05

auriea

work was not work

15/05/2017, 13:10:21

auriea

whispers = new Array();

15/05/2017, 13:10:33

michaël

Being on the internet required doing, creating.

15/05/2017, 13:11:17

auriea

and persona was wrapped up in the code we made…

15/05/2017, 13:11:31

michaël

But how certain could we be that the love we created was real?

15/05/2017, 13:11:52

michaël

Maybe it was just an aesthetic game, a story we created together.

15/05/2017, 13:12:00

auriea

if ( 1 + 1 == 1 ) { e8z = true; };

15/05/2017, 13:12:02

michaël

Did we make the story real?

15/05/2017, 13:12:23

michaël

Skinonskinonskin does document a lot of the doubt we had.

15/05/2017, 13:12:32

michaël

But I guess we never doubted our love.

15/05/2017, 13:12:41

michaël

Just what we were willing to do for it.

15/05/2017, 13:14:30

auriea

what we did: we met in hell.com. we met many other hell.com members in a video chat one night and ended up in a private room. we woke up the next morning, confused, elated and unashamed, wondering how that happened. you sent me breath.html

15/05/2017, 13:14:49

auriea

an interface was built. connections made.

15/05/2017, 13:14:56

auriea

http://entropy8zuper.org

15/05/2017, 13:15:06

auriea

http://entropy8zuper.org/underyourdesk

15/05/2017, 13:15:19

michaël

Haha. Yes. I remember not knowing exactly what had happened. It wasn't until later that I realized that we had had sex.

15/05/2017, 13:15:25

michaël

On a first date!

15/05/2017, 13:15:26

auriea

http://entropy8zuper.org/godlove

15/05/2017, 13:15:31

michaël

That wasn't even a date.

15/05/2017, 13:15:45

auriea

it was meant to be a one night stand.

15/05/2017, 13:15:52

auriea

… 18 years later

15/05/2017, 13:16:43

auriea

but our code if ( 1 + 1 == 1 ) { e8z = true; }; the code inscribed on the inside of our wedding rings. it was on the front page of hell.com so long everyone thought hell.com was us.

15/05/2017, 13:17:01

auriea

that was a funny misunderstanding.

15/05/2017, 13:17:43

auriea

but to show skinonskinonskin after it was discovered, a pay-per-view was the only way.

15/05/2017, 13:18:14

michaël

We even made money with that. Despite that not being the reason for doing it.

15/05/2017, 13:18:45

auriea

haha yeah

15/05/2017, 13:19:19

michaël

When was Skinonskinonskin open to the public on hell.com? Was this after you had already moved to Belgium?

15/05/2017, 13:20:00

auriea

yes i was already here. (i moved to be with you very very quickly)

15/05/2017, 13:20:27

michaël

Wikipedia says September 1999.

15/05/2017, 13:20:41

michaël

You moved in May.

15/05/2017, 13:21:00

michaël

4 Months after we met in hell.

15/05/2017, 13:22:00

auriea

what happened was that we started our site together the day we first met each other in person, that was in San Francisco, probably March 1999. what happened was that skinonskinonskin became the first public presentation on hell.com. what happened was that I moved to Belgium 4 months after we met in hell.

15/05/2017, 13:22:57

auriea

timelines are confusing. is there time in cyberspace?

15/05/2017, 13:23:07

auriea

function startNow()

15/05/2017, 13:23:19

michaël

Very fast time, apparently.

15/05/2017, 13:23:37

michaël

You broke off a relationship of 4 years and moved to another continent.

15/05/2017, 13:23:54

michaël

I left my very young children and their mother.

15/05/2017, 13:24:09

michaël

We were monsters.

15/05/2017, 13:24:22

auriea

it felt that way.

15/05/2017, 13:24:31

auriea

and perhaps we were.

15/05/2017, 13:24:35

auriea

are.

15/05/2017, 13:24:49

michaël

We were very selfish.

15/05/2017, 13:25:14

michaël

But I felt more me with you than before.

15/05/2017, 13:25:50

auriea

happiness was in us. we just needed to find it.

15/05/2017, 13:25:56

michaël

I finally felt "me" enough to even be able to be selfish.

15/05/2017, 13:26:21

auriea

skinonskinonskin was us alternately trying to talk each other into and out of the love affair.

15/05/2017, 13:26:28

michaël

I was afraid I was going to wither without you.

15/05/2017, 13:26:39

michaël

I remember we tried just working together.

15/05/2017, 13:27:08

michaël

We like creating things and felt we complemented each other.

15/05/2017, 13:27:49

auriea

right. but i was gone… i mean, the sky itself told me i had to come to you. the clouds laughed when i said i wanted to stay as i was. the wind didn't believe me for a second.

15/05/2017, 13:28:04

michaël

The thing that I remember most is your burnt plane ticket.

15/05/2017, 13:28:28

michaël

Such determination not to come to Belgium!

15/05/2017, 13:28:31

auriea

that was a typical dramatic gesture. smoke.

15/05/2017, 13:28:36

michaël

Flames!

15/05/2017, 13:28:58

michaël

So much money!

15/05/2017, 13:29:01

auriea

the whole thing was so amazing. so banal.

15/05/2017, 13:29:04

michaël

Burnt.

15/05/2017, 13:29:38

auriea

that was the funny thing. it was at once Opera and Jerry Springer.

15/05/2017, 13:29:42

michaël

Somebody should make a romcom about Skinonskinonskin.

15/05/2017, 13:29:48

auriea

yes!

15/05/2017, 13:30:00

michaël

It has a happy ending, after all.

15/05/2017, 13:31:07

auriea

i can look back on the situation fondly and be almost embarrassed. or i can find myself with tears in my eyes and feel that love for you all over again, the kind that keeps planets in orbit! and then i go to the kitchen and make tea.

15/05/2017, 13:31:39

michaël

So you only feel that way on the days you make tea?

15/05/2017, 13:31:51

auriea

hahaah

15/05/2017, 13:31:55

auriea

that is the outcome of our DHTML conversation. and ultimately the meaning of art to me.

15/05/2017, 13:33:46

auriea

laughing! crying! extraordinary! but ultimately blending into the world… the beauty of love and pain enhancing something as simple as making tea for your lover.

15/05/2017, 13:34:17

auriea

i see how making that work bound us together.

15/05/2017, 13:34:31

auriea

and i am thankful for it

15/05/2017, 13:34:32

michaël

So we coded our love?

15/05/2017, 13:34:40

auriea

absolutely!

15/05/2017, 13:34:48

auriea

return true;

15/05/2017, 13:34:48

michaël

That explains the bugs!

15/05/2017, 13:35:29

auriea

maybe we can discuss some of the pages?

15/05/2017, 13:35:55

michaël

The ones that still work?

15/05/2017, 13:36:06

auriea

they will all work once rhizome restores them

15/05/2017, 13:36:26

auriea

which is your favorite?

15/05/2017, 13:36:36

auriea

or which do you remember most

15/05/2017, 13:38:27

michaël

Apart from "temptation" with the burnt plane ticket, I've always though "but" summarized the situation quite well.

15/05/2017, 13:38:55

auriea

that one stung me. a lot! i was completely hurt.

15/05/2017, 13:39:42

michaël

But yeah, your "control" is probably my favorite. That's why I imitated it, I guess. So seductive! So bad.

15/05/2017, 13:40:00

auriea

that one and unsent.gif

15/05/2017, 13:40:07

auriea

though i understood.

15/05/2017, 13:40:28

michaël

And I can't look at "missing" without feeling a pang of the old lovepain/painlove.

15/05/2017, 13:40:41

auriea

yes. your response to control was so perfect. all that melting snow.

15/05/2017, 13:41:11

auriea

"sticking" and "future" make me cry every time.

15/05/2017, 13:42:56

michaël

And "freezing" with the little "Z" under your finger. As if I was your little secret that you guarded tenderly.

15/05/2017, 13:43:24

michaël

I used "Z" as my name back then. And your name started with A. Alpha and Omega. We were destined to be. Moon and sun.

15/05/2017, 13:44:05

michaël

I was such a slut back then.

15/05/2017, 13:44:12

auriea

and half of skinonskinonskin was made before we met in person and the other half after. i'd almost forgotten.

15/05/2017, 13:44:24

auriea

slut

15/05/2017, 13:44:45

michaël

Yeah, we continued for a while.

15/05/2017, 13:44:49

auriea

so there is one page where you were looking for our first apartment

15/05/2017, 13:45:01

auriea

ourhome.html

15/05/2017, 13:45:13

michaël

When our relationship was difficult, Skinonskinonskin provided a refuge.

15/05/2017, 13:46:00

michaël

I guess Skinonskinonskin was continued in Wirefire.

15/05/2017, 13:47:17

auriea

yes and Wirefire was where we recycled all the emotions, graphics and sounds. of our love, our new life, and work together

15/05/2017, 13:47:33

michaël

Me in my pyjama bottoms in the early morning in the former factory where I lived. "come"

15/05/2017, 13:48:03

auriea

"technical" seemed like an anthem

15/05/2017, 13:49:39

michaël

We were connected through the wires. The network felt warm and intimate to us.

15/05/2017, 13:49:59

auriea

now that i think of it… a bunt plane ticket would mean nothing today.

15/05/2017, 13:50:24

michaël

It's been almost two decades.

15/05/2017, 13:50:27

auriea

and now everyone is always on… there is no disconnecting.

15/05/2017, 13:50:46

auriea

we would always sign off with "Disconnect only the software."

15/05/2017, 13:51:00

auriea

((geeks))

15/05/2017, 13:51:42

michaël

Oddly, to some extent that was a dream of ours. See "entropy8zuper2": Connection: Keep-Alive

15/05/2017, 13:51:54

auriea

so how shall we sign off now?

15/05/2017, 13:52:10

michaël

Some of our dreams have turned into nightmares. Or banal realities.

15/05/2017, 13:53:11

michaël

We can sign off with: How do we save this conversation to a file in this bloody Skype interface?

15/05/2017, 13:53:19

auriea

LOL

15/05/2017, 13:53:39

auriea

select all, copy/paste - it was ever thus <3

15/05/2017, 13:53:58

michaël

Your computer is superior.

15/05/2017, 13:54:27

michaël

I have to stop looking at Skinonskinonskin now. It's so painfully real.

15/05/2017, 13:54:49

michaël

I wonder how much other people get from it.

15/05/2017, 13:55:02

michaël

I guess love is universal.

15/05/2017, 13:55:35

auriea

it's like that. and i too wonder if it works that way for anyone else. especially now, out of the context of that time when such a communication made sense.

15/05/2017, 13:56:08

michaël

It still rains on Sundays.

15/05/2017, 13:56:21

michaël

People still live on different continents.

15/05/2017, 13:56:26

auriea

i like to think of it, but looking at it is hard. though i am excited to see it restored and working properly again after all.

15/05/2017, 13:56:40

auriea

it still rains on sundays.

15/05/2017, 13:56:52

auriea

people still fall in love on the internet.

15/05/2017, 13:56:59

auriea

we are still here.

15/05/2017, 13:57:27

michaël

People still have relationships and children with people who are not "the one".

15/05/2017, 13:57:55

michaël

Some of them abandon everything.

15/05/2017, 13:58:02

michaël

To be together.

15/05/2017, 13:58:08

auriea

rnd.today=new Date(); rnd.seed=rnd.today.getTime();


This chat took place on Skype between Michaël Samyn and Auriea Harvey on May 15, 2017. The layout is based on a custom design by Dragan Espenschied.