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Subject: RHIZOME DIGEST: 12.21.03
From: digest@rhizome.org (RHIZOME)
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 22:15:57 -0500
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RHIZOME DIGEST: December 21, 2003

Content:

+announcement+
1. Rob Myers: CC Sampling License
2. Noemata: Welcome to Ars Publica - net.art commerce on the net!
3. Abanze: banyan project - a traveling festival

+opportunity+
4. Michael Brodsky: Assistant Professor of Multimedia Arts - Tenure
Track Position
5. Rachel Greene: Rhizome Seeks Intern to Work on International,
Scholarly Outreach Program
6. Chris: Tenure Track New Media Arts Position
7. Soren Pold: Call for Papers: READ_ME 2004

+feature+
8. Francis Hwang, Ana Boa-Ventura, Matthew Mascotte, Gita Hashemi, Rob
Myers, Pall Thayer, Michael Szpakowski, Patrick Simons, Rachel Greene:
commissions voting process

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+ editor's note +

Digest will be on hiatus next week and will return the first week of
the new year. Happy Holidays from the Rhizome staff!

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1.

Date: 12.16.03
From: Rob Myers (robmyers AT mac.com)
Subject: CC Sampling License

Creative Commons sampling license announcement (7MB, sit through the
preamble...):

http://mirrors.creativecommons.org/reticulum_rex/
http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/3934

- Rob.

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2.

Date: 12.19.03
From: Noemata (noemata AT kunst.no)
Subject: Welcome to Ars Publica - net.art commerce on the net!

Ars Publica

Welcome to Ars Publica -
Net.art commerce on the net!
http://www.arspublica.com/

Ars Publica is a digital art publisher and agency established for
providing and funding new media art, activities and resources in
affiliation with the art server Noemata.net.

Noemata.net is a non-profit, open content art server working with
net.art, digital art since 1996, supported 2002-3 by the Norwegian
Council of Cultural Affairs - Art and New Technology, hosted by Artnet
Norway. On a yearly basis Noemata serves estimably 2 mill. pages, 20
gigabytes, and 170,000 visitors. All published material from Noemata is
covered by the Open Content Licence (OCL) which in practice means it can
be copied, modified and distributed freely.

In an effort to fuse copylefted digital art and art commerce Ars Publica
is offering shares of Noemata to people and institutions interested in
sponsoring the art server.

Shares can be browsed and purchased from the catalogue, establishing
ownership in Noemata.

The art will usually be delivered to you prior to your order, the
digital art being freely available on the net the audience and potential
buyer is already owner of the art - it is already distributed and
downloaded by being browsed (much like quantum mechanics, readymades,
zen, or similar commodities). In addition, the art of Noemata is open
content licenced, meaning no fee can be charged for it, so that's
another problem - no order, no payment (if you figure out a way to pay
us we'll consider whether to accept it or not). By buying shares of
Noemata in the form of art we in Ars Publica fancy having provided a
solution where you can order something you already possess, and purchase
something which may not be charged for - these are problematic issues,
maybe paradoxical, anyway, we'll have a shot in the arm at it.

Welcome to net.art commerce on the net!

Ars Publica is a registered organisation with org.no. 983.153.933.NO,
registered in Norway (Brønnøysundregistrene).

Contact and requests
arspublica AT kunst.no
http://www.arspublica.com/

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3.

Date: 12.19.03
From: Abanze (abanze AT web.de)
Subject: banyan project - a traveling festival

BANJAN PROJECT

January 21 - April 05 2004 TAHITI - FIJI - NEW ZEALAND - AUSTRALIA -
INDONESIA - LAOS - THAILAND

A TRAVELING FESTIVAL: Offroad presentations of works by artists,
musicians, VJs, filmmakers and performers from the places the project
travels through and all continents.

Contributions, DVDs, MiniDVvideo, CDRs, paintings, prints, AudioCDs etc.
can be submitted by postage. You can find the postal addresses for
certain periods of time on the website http://www.banyan-project.de
Small data records, e.g. FLASH movies, photos or MP3 music can be sent
by email: abanze AT web.de alfred AT khm.de

SCREENINGS: Festival international du film documentaire d'Océanie in
Tahiti, 21. - 23 January 2004 2nd ICECA New Media Art Festival in
Bangkok, 25th of march 2004 Evening performances take place in the
street, in the proximity of nightmarkets, on temple areas and meeting
points, at fairs and ceremonies, on the roads around metropolises and
deep in the jungle. Participants are invited to visit the project for
themselves. We can not pay for travel expenses, but we offer assistance
with individual fonding requests. BANYAN is a kind of a moving open
studio, in which participants can work on their individual projects.

THEME: The BANYAN tree grows almost downward from above, it begins as a
PARASiTE and then drives air roots, from which new part trees grow.
Therefore a computer network system is named after it: Banyan Vines. The
tree is holy in many religions. And it supplies the topic and the
organisational structure of this project.

Support: IFA German Institute for Foreign Relations. Children Make Art
with Media - Cultural Education in the Age of Media. Maison de la
Culture Papeete. Festival International du Film documentaire d'Oceanie
Tahiti. ICECA New Media Art Festival Bangkok
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Alfred Banze
Kopenicker Str 46
10179 Berlin
Germany
http://www.alfred-banze.de

Andreas Dettloff
B.P. 2878 - Papeete
Polynesie Francaise
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http://www.banyan-project.de
mailto:abanze AT web.de
mailto:alfred AT khm.de
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For $65 annually, Rhizome members can put their sites on a Linux
server, with a whopping 350MB disk storage space, 1GB data transfer per
month, catch-all email forwarding, daily web traffic stats, 1 FTP
account, and the capability to host your own domain name (or use
http://rhizome.net/your_account_name). PLUS, those who sign up for
Rhizome hosting before January 15, 2004 will receive a *FREE* domain
name for one year. And there is more, the hosted can take comfort in
knowing they're being active roots in the rhizome schema, helping the
.ORG self-sustain. Details at:
https://www.broadspire.com/order/rhizome/freedomain.html

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4.

Date: 12.15.03
From: Michael Brodsky (mbrodsky AT lmu.edu)
Subject: Assistant Professor of Multimedia Arts - Tenure Track Position

Assistant Professor of Multimedia Arts , full-time tenure-track
position. Fall 2004

Loyola Marymount University, Los Angeles, CA. Department of Art and Art
History seeks an excellent artist/teacher in the area of Multimedia.

Ability to teach 2-D Computer Graphics on the Macintosh with an
additional emphasis in Motion Graphics (AfterEffects) and/or 3-D (Maya).
New Media and multi-disciplinary orientation.

Duties: teach 3 undergraduate level courses per semester, advise
students, assist with university committee and departmental work;
professional research and creative work required; and the ability to
address the needs of a growing program within an Art and Art History
Department at a liberal arts institution.

REQUIREMENTS MFA or equivalent experience. Three years college level
teaching beyond Graduate Assistantship preferred. Application letter,
CV, Teaching Philosophy, Technical Strengths. Appropriate evidence of
professional activity, i.e. Slides, CD-ROM, or Sample Reel, include
slides and/or examples of student work, 3 letters of recommendation, and
SASE.

Applications received prior to February 2, 2004 will be considered for
interviews at CAA Seattle.

DEADLINE: March 1, 2004 or until filled. EOE/AA/WMA

Fr. Michael Tang, Chair,
Department of Art and Art History,
Loyola Marymount University,
One LMU Drive, MS 8346,
Los Angeles, CA 90045-2659. USA

310-338-7424. mailto:mtang AT lmu.edu
http://www.lmu.edu/colleges/cfa/art/

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5.

Date: 12.15.03
From: Rachel Greene (rachel AT rhizome.org)
Subject: Rhizome Seeks Intern to Work on International, Scholarly
Outreach Program

Rhizome.org Seeks Intern to Work on International, Scholarly Outreach
Program

Rhizome.org, a nonprofit organization focused on new media art, is
seeking an Intern to work on an international outreach program building
the subscriber-base of our site and email lists. We seek an
exceptionally smart, web-savvy, people-person to take on
responsibilities relating to our organizational subscriptions program.
This intern's primary responsibility is to oversee the invitation and
sign-up process for international organizations subscribing to
Rhizome.org. The successful candidate will be articulate, interested in
new media art, archives, non-profit development and willing to grow the
audience of our organization.

Rhizome.org is among the oldest and most well-respected organizations in
the field of new media art. For more information about the organization
and our programs, please check out our web site: http://rhizome.org.


PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITIES:
+ Compile list of libraries, centers and schools that might benefit
from organizational subscriptions to Rhizome.org.
+ Send out invitations to the appropriate people at these institutions,
in conjunction with Rhizome's Executive Director
+ Conduct follow-ups. Answer any questions about Rhizome.org that might
arise
+ Help negotiate subscriptions
+ Organize accounts such that the Director of Technology can implement
new subscriptions
+ Represent Rhizome in meetings or perhaps travel as a representative
of the program
+ Work with Director of Technology to create tracking system to oversee
renewal process

REQUIRED QUALIFICATIONS:
+ Good communication skills (i.e. letter-writing, follow-up, phone
outreach)
+ Experience with organizational development
+ Must be highly organized

Exceptional candidates will also have the following skills:
+ Experience with arts administration

START DATE: January, 2004.

END DATE: TBD

SALARY: This is an unpaid internship. It would be ideal for a student
who receives academic credit for internships.

LOCATION: Rhizome is located at the New Museum of Contemporary Art in
New York City.

TO APPLY: Please email a cover letter and resume to Rachel Greene,
Executive Director: rachel AT rhizome.org

Rachel Greene
Rhizome.org
New Museum of Contemporary Art
583 Broadway
NY, NY 10012
212.218.1288 X 208

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6.

Date: 12.17.03
From: Chris (chris_cryer AT westvalley.edu)
Subject: Tenure Track New Media Arts Position

The West Valley College Art Department (Saratoga, CA) is seeking
applicants for a tenure track, New Media Arts Instructor. The
successful candidate will teach fundamental to advanced art and design
courses using traditional and digital media tools and techniques which
may include interactive authoring. Practical experience with cross
platform, mixed media issues, instructional supplementation, and
curriculum development is desired. The successful candidate should be
willing to collaborate with students, faculty, and staff to create a
productive learning environment. Applicants with the knowledge, skill,
ability and life experiences to address the educational needs of a
diverse student population are encouraged to apply.

Download an application:
http://www.wvmccd.cc.ca.us/wvmccd/hr/

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7.

Date: 12.17.03
From: Soren Pold (pold AT multimedia.au.dk)
Subject: Call for Papers: READ_ME 2004

Please, distribute - sorry for crossposting

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READ_ME 2004
software art festival
/
/
Software Art and Cultures Runme-Dorkbot
conference city camp


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The third edition of the Read_Me software art festival will be held at
the end of August 2004 in Aarhus, Denmark. Read_me 2004 will consist of
the conference at Aarhus University and the city camp organized by two
friendly entities: Runme.org and Dorkbot. The conference and the city
camp will be held consecutively.

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This is an announcement concerning the Software Art and Cultures
conference. The information on the Runme-Dorkbot city camp will follow
later.

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Software Art and Cultures conference aims to provide an opportunity for
people researching software art and culture to share their findings. The
art movement known by the name "software art" has been active for a few
years, and similar phenomena under different names have been developed
and researched for a few decades. It is our belief that there is a
sufficient body of thinking in this and related areas taking place that
there should be a platform for aiding further discovery and enrichment.

Software art is a practice that regards software as a cultural
phenomenon that defines one of the significant aspects of our lives
today. Thus, software is not regarded as an invisible layer, but rather
as a significant entity contributing to reproduction or change of
certain orders, whether aesthetic, cultural, social or political.
Software art creatively questions and redefines software and its ways of
functioning.

Software art embraces a wide range of practices: from formalist
experiments with code and its execution to software manipulation that
does not require any specific knowledge, from alternative tools built
from scratch to add-ons and deconstructions, from real software to
projects not written in programming languages at all, but which deal
with issues relevant to software criticism or culture. Software art
deals with a wide range of topics, including social, political, and
aesthetic issues. In many cases, it addresses and becomes part of
software culture itself.

Software cultures - cultures generated by programmers, designers and
software users - are generous sources of thinking on digital culture and
society. Software cultures define the way software is created and
functions, thus influencing the composition and function of the basic
infrastructures of digital society. In this way, software cultures
become inseparable (though largely underestimated) from the forms
digital work, social institutions and cultural manifestations take
today. Software cultures initiate social change, act in political
spheres, create and discover new artistic realms and methodologies.

The conference encourages participation of specialists in various
disciplines: multi-disciplinary researchers including non-academics, art
theorists, and other thinkers and learners interested in the effects of
software and software cultures on art, culture, and society - and in
ways to analyze them and challenge existing patterns.

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This is a call for submissions of abstracts (up to 2500 characters).
Authors of accepted abstracts will be asked to submit the full paper
before 1 of June, 2004 (up to 25000 characters) and present it during
the conference. The papers will be published prior to the conference. We
aim to provide grants for travel and lodging for speakers without
institutional backing.

Deadline for abstracts: 1 of March, 2004
Deadline for notification of acceptance: 1 of April, 2004

Abstracts may be submitted to: Olga Goriunova (og AT dxlab.org> and Soeren
Pold (pold AT multimedia.au.dk>

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Organized by: Read_Me, Digital Aesthetics Research Centre
(www.digital-aestetik.dk) (Aarhus University), Det Jyske Kunstakademi
(The Jutland Academy of Fine Arts), Runme.org, Dorkbot.

Supported by: IT-Vest, Aarhus Kommune

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*************** NEW PHONE NUMBER + ADRESS****************
Soeren Pold, ph.d., adjunkt (assistant professor)
Multimedia Studies & Comparative Literature
University of Aarhus Office: Wiener: 5347.136
IT Parken phone: +45 8942 9254
Helsingforsgade 14 fax +45 8942 5624
DK-8200 Aarhus N, Denmark
email: pold AT multimedia.au.dk, soeren AT bro-pold.dk (priv.)
http://www.bro-pold.dk
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Center for Digital Costetik-forskning:
http://www.digital-aestetik.dk

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8.

Date: 12.11.03-12.15.03
From: Francis Hwang (francis AT rhizome.org), Ana Boa-Ventura
(anaventura AT mail.utexas.edu), Matthew Mascotte (mascotte AT mac.com), Gita
Hashemi (gita AT ping.ca), Rob Myers (robmyers AT mac.com), Pall Thayer
(palli AT pallit.lhi.is), Michael Szpakowski (szpako AT yahoo.com), Patrick
Simons (patricksimons AT gloriousninth.com), Rachel Greene
(rachel AT rhizome.org)
Subject: commissions voting process

Francis Hwang (francis AT rhizome.org) posted:

Hi everybody:

As you may know, we're going to be involving the Rhizome members in the
voting process for the 2004 Net Art Commissions. Below is a first draft
of this process, and I'd appreciate any comments on it.

The below is just a draft; nothing is fixed at this point. We're open to
comments on any part of the process described below. I'd appreciate it
if readers gave special consideration to the following issues:

1. The filtering process. We will probably receive more than 100
entries, and we want to filter this down to (say) 25 finalists. It is
unreasonable to expect everybody to read all 100 proposals, so we need
to design a system that allows participants to read a small percentage
of those proposals and vote on those. The available literature says very
little about this sort of a system, even though the recent California
recall probably had the same problem. The "INITIAL STAGE" system below
is entirely of my own invention; any opinions on it would be
appreciated.

2. Discretion and sensitivity to proposals It's important to us that
people be considerate of all the proposals submitted. In an open call
such as this we're going to be receiving proposals at widely varying
levels of quality, professionalism, and experience. We want to make sure
that we don't have a situation where artists feel like their proposals
are being publically criticized in a way that is insensitive or unfair.
(Note that this problem is one of the added complications with a more
open process; if you just have a jury meeting in a conference room or
over a small email list you can be much more candid.) We want to make
sure that no artist feels intimidated by the process, either for this
round or for any Commissions in the future. Any suggestions as to how to
foster the most constructive discussions would be appreciated.

3. Implementation time The chances are good that I am going to have to
implement this by scratch. So to any changes I reserve the right to put
on my Cranky Techie hat and say "That's not gonna happen." Any proposals
for changes to the process described below should not make things any
more complicated. Simpler is better.

BTW, if you're interested in poli-sci geekery you might check out the
"Alternative Voting Systems" paper I read when thinking about this:
http://bcn.boulder.co.us/government/approvalvote/altvote.html

Francis ---------- The Rhizome.org 2004 Net Art Commissions will award
five new net art projects with commissions ranging from $1,500 to
$3,500. We are interested in having a relatively open decision-making
process that gives community members a substantial say in these awards
while also retaining a traditional voting role for the Commissions jury.

VOTING ELIGIBILITY To be eligible to vote in the Commissions process,
you need to be a Rhizome member in good standing. In addition, to
prevent people from signing up at the last minute solely for the purpose
of influencing the result, only Rhizome members with accounts that were
created before August 15, 2003 may vote. (There are currently more than
28000 user accounts in the Rhizome system that were created before that
date.)

Each Rhizome member should only vote once, regardless of how many valid
memberships that person may have. We reserve the right to eliminate any
votes if we believe that they come from a member who is voting with more
than one membership.

INITIAL STAGE Rhizome's first Commissioning Program, the 2002 cycle,
received more than 100 entries. We expect this Commissioning Program to
receive at least the same number of entries.

Rhizome community members will choose finalists from this initial pool.
They will be asked to vote Yes or No for any and all proposals, and will
be able to change their votes at any time in the initial stage. Although
members will be able to vote on any proposal at any time, they will also
be given an interface that encourages them to review proposals with the
least number of votes, so that all proposals will receive roughly the
same number of votes.

Under this system, no member will be required to review all the
proposals. However, the more proposals you vote for, the more influence
you will have over which proposals proceed to the final stage.

At the end of the first stage, each proposal will be ranked according to
the percentage of Yes votes it receives. For example, a proposal which
receives 10 Yes votes will be ranked at 100%, and a proposal that
receives 15 Yes votes and 5 No votes will be ranked at 75%. The highest
ranking 25 proposals will move on to the final stage; this may be more
than 25 in the case of ties.

The initial stage will last from February 15 to February 29, 2004.

FINAL STAGE In the final stage, both Rhizome members and the jury will
choose awardees based on the pool of 25 or more finalists. Rhizome
members will choose one of the five awards; the jury will choose the
remaining four.

The final stage will last from March 1 to March 15, 2004.

FINAL STAGE: RHIZOME MEMBERS From the 25 or more finalists, Rhizome
members will be able to choose one of the five awards. The voting system
used for the final stage will be Single Transferable Vote, also known as
Instant Runoff Voting. Each voter will rank the proposals from most
favorite to least favorite. When the votes are tallied, the first-place
votes are counted to see if any proposal has received more than 50% of
the votes. If so, then that proposal is the winner. Otherwise, the
proposal with the least first-place votes is removed from the list of
proposals, and the process is repeated.

For example: Five voters have to choose one winning proposal among four
candidates: a, b, c, and d. They vote as follows:

Maximilian: abc
Lukas: acb
Niklas: bca
Jurgen: bac
Hans: cab

In the first round, a gets 2 votes, b gets 2, and c gets 1. Nobody has
the majority (3), so we remove the least popular candidate, c, making
Hans' vote effectively "ab". Now a gets 3 votes and b gets 2 votes, and
a is the winner.

Voters are not required to rank all final proposals, but they are
encouraged to rank as many as possible. If you rank only a few
candidates, it's possible that your vote will end up being eliminated
entirely in the final tally.

In the event that the jury feels that the members' first-place choice
will require a disproportionately large amount of the commission funds,
we reserve the right to substitute a choice further down the members'
list.

FINAL STAGE: JURY The jury consists of German critic Tilman Baumgartel,
artist Natalie Bookchin of CalArts, Rachel Greene of Rhizome.org,
Francis Hwang of Rhizome.org, and Japanese curator Yukiko Shikata. This
jury will be responsible for choosing four of the five awards.

The jury will decide on four awards, with one more on deck in case there
is overlap with the Rhizome members' choice. The process for this will
be much less formal. Maybe it will involve monkeys.

DISCUSSION At all phases of the process, we encourage and expect open
discussion of the proposals, both on Rhizome and elsewhere online. We
hope that this discussion will be respectful and considerate of all the
artists involved.

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Ana Boa-Ventura (anaventura AT mail.utexas.edu) replied:

Francis,

I want to compliment you on this document: it's excellent! I have only
one doubt. When you say:

"For example, a proposal which receives 10 Yes votes will be ranked at
100%, and a proposal that receives 15 Yes votes and 5 No votes will be
ranked at 75%."

Does this mean that i can vote "yes" , "no" or express "no opinion" for
piece X? In which case it is the ratio of "yes" versus "no" for that
particular piece that counts? Hmmm. If this is so the only thing that i
thought we should be aware of - and may come up in the discussion - is a
bit like the unreliability of studies based on voluntary surveys. You're
only going to answer if you feel strongly about whatever is covered
there - if you loved it or hated it you'll answer . If you're just ok
with it you probably won't.

Doesn't this yes/no proportion have implications there? But then again,
is there a better alternative? I really don't know - just wanted to
alert y'all to possible consequences of:
1- allowing people to choose the pieces they're saying somethig about it
(i'm sure it would be a nigthmare but maybe you could assign works to
people? guess the interface encouraging you to vote on the ones that
haven't voted yet could be the solution - and i'm curious about it.:))
2- having the ratio yes/no to influence the overall result as opposed to
yes only.

All the best and kudos on the description of the voting process!

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Matthew Mascotte (mascotte AT mac.com) replied:

hey. i like your approach and the process. but i feel excluded because i
joined in october 2003. i very much want to partcipate in this process.
please reconsider the cut off date.

regards,

matthew f. mascotte

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Francis Hwang replied:

I imagined that you could only vote "yes" or "no". You can't vote "no
opinion", though you can simply choose not to vote on a particular
proposal.

It is true that this voting system will be weighted towards those who
feel strongly about the process and various proposals. I think that's
generally true of all voting systems, though. I wouldn't be surprised if
the core group of voters is only about 100 or 200 die-hards, though I'd
love it if everybody voted. I'm only concerned if this would
disadvantage individual pieces against others, but I have a hard time
imagining how it would do that.

I'm less concerned about the cases where each proposal gets, say, 100
votes. The wierd cases will be if not a lot of people vote and a
proposal gets just 1 vote. Then its score can only be 100% or 0%. Not
sure how to counteract that effect, other than to try to design the
interface in such a way that the proposal with the least votes pops up
at the top of the list.

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Francis Hwang added:

A good point. I suppose it wouldn't hurt to make the cutoff point
something much later, like December 1.

F.

On Friday, December 12, 2003, at 12:00 PM, Matthew Mascotte wrote:

) hey. i like your approach and the
) process. but i feel excluded because
) i joined in october 2003. i very much
) want to partcipate in this process. please
) reconsider the cut off date.
)
) regards,
)
) matthew f. mascotte

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Gita Hashemi (gita AT ping.ca) replied:

At 3:19 PM -0500 12/11/03, Francis Hwang wrote:
)
)For example: Five voters have to choose one winning proposal among four
)candidates: a, b, c, and d. They vote as follows:
)
)Maximilian: abc
)Lukas: acb
)Niklas: bca
)Jurgen: bac
)Hans: cab

Questions:

Would the voters have to be European- and male-identified?
a. no
b. this is a stupid question
c. yes

Or, do we simply don't care about these things any longer?
a. no
b. i said, this is a stupid question
c. yes

Or, is this simply a stupid question?
a. no
b. look, i told you, this really is a stupid question
c. yes


Respectfully,

Gita Hashemi
Member for some time
Vote: abc
No, wait. Maybe: cab
Although, I could also go with: bca
What do these votes mean anyway?
Democracy?

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Francis Hwang replied:

Let's be specific: They're not just European men, they're German men.
Why is that?

a: Because human names are more interesting than labels like "Voting
Automoton Alpha", "Beta", "Delta", etc.
b: Francis thought that the poli-sci geekery could be lightened up with
a little levity, or, in pseudo Valley-Girl parlance, something "totally
random".
c: Christmas-time stress makes Francis sexually frustrated and maybe
he's got some odd sexual fetish that he should keep to himself.
d: Because deep down inside Francis wants to be a German man.
e: He chose that category at random, and next time he writes a similar
document he promises to use names of half-Korean transsexuals.
f: Monkey.

Yours,
F.

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Rob Myers (robmyers AT mac.com) added:

We should vote in Lisp.

So the candidates would be

(setq candidates
(cons Maximillian
(cons Lukas
(cons Niklas
(cons Jurgen
(cons Hans nil))))))

And we could vote by saying

'('caddr 'caddddr 'cadr)

- Rob.

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Pall Thayer (palli AT pallit.lhi.is) added:

How about voting with a lisp:

Maxthimilian theeaybee
Lukath aytheebee
Niklath etc....

Pall

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Michael Szpakowski (szpako AT yahoo.com) replied:

Actually what might be really interesting and remove it from the level
of tokenism is if the *entire* jury was elected by the paid up rhizome
community. ( and perhaps if the subject of the commissions was decided
similarly too)
michael

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Patrick Simons (patricksimons AT gloriousninth.com) added:

Totally in agreement with young Michael here, perhaps the process for
deciding the theme of the commissions could take the form of a game?
kerplunk
Patrick

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Rachel Greene (rachel AT rhizome.org) replied:

I take this as a strong suggestion for our next round of commissions,
but I am afraid we're too far along with this year's program to either
change the theme (which was decided upon over a year ago, by the way),
or to uninvite the jury. -- Rachel

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